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Captcha or other security addition to cart page

    Jun 05 2012 20:13:08

    #1

    Flaggfish

    Join date : 2008-09-23      Posts : 77

    I personally hate these Captcha type things, but as a web designer I have received a request for this from a client. I will be setting up the cart to go to Paypal for payment by Credit Card or Paypal.

    I can't really see the point of Captcha since the money part is taking place at Paypal. I have had some spam on other forms that I've made on sites, but never from a Mal's Cart.

    Is Captcha a good idea, and if so, does anyone have a suggestion for coding that works well?



    Jun 06 2012 05:06:15

    #2

    GT

    Join date : 2008-09-18      Posts : 3207

    Totally pointless, a complete waste of time.

    As you've already found, there are no instances of spammers, so why place a barrier in the way of a sale?

    Having trouble with a form or need one building?
    Fast turnaround, but I do charge :)

    Mal's Forms / Scripts and the syntax are here.




    Jun 08 2012 11:22:53

    #3

    Flaggfish

    Join date : 2008-09-23      Posts : 77

    So here's what the client's bank says is happening:
    "Recently we have been seeing more cases of fraudulent card testing, merchant compromise and fraudulent customer transactions. At this time, one of the most prevalent scams are being focused towards Non Profit Ecommerce Merchants. Fraudsters are using your web sites to test fraudulent credit cards by processing small dollar transactions to see which cards receive authorizations, then using the active card numbers for fraudulent purchases. This can be very costly to your business. As these fraudsters are processing thousands of cards in a very short period of time, these charges can add up very quickly. We have seen the merchant costs go as high as $5,000. "

    So this sounds like something new. I'm going to look into Captcha. Ugh.



    Jun 08 2012 13:05:04

    #4

    GT

    Join date : 2008-09-18      Posts : 3207

    Having trouble with a form or need one building?
    Fast turnaround, but I do charge :)

    Mal's Forms / Scripts and the syntax are here.




    Jun 10 2012 13:37:55

    #5

    Flaggfish

    Join date : 2008-09-23      Posts : 77

    I'll try this script. Thanks! If you have a form with a lot of items in it, it seems like I would have to have this double box with each item that could be placed in the cart. I'll play with it for future reference. It would come in handy for message forms, since I have had spammy stuff filled in on those and there is just one send button.

    FYI I talked to the security people at the bank that was wanting Captcha. They said that this CC testing that the crooks are doing is to test a card to see if they can get it used for a cheap purchase. They then can use it on other sites for expensive purchases. But I asked why this would be needed, since if they have all the correct name,address,cc, exp, etc, the card would work anywhere. They said that the crooks don't have all the info and tend to use generic info like the name John Smith. And the website carts that fall into the trap are ignoring the info that's wrong.

    So we came to the conclusion that the Mal's/Paypal combo is safe since Paypal would not accept a CC with the wrong info. And when I set up a cart that uses the website owner's merchant services to enter a payment manually, the owner will see the incorrect info and their merchant services account should reject it as well.
    It could be that some Gateways that auto deposit payments into a checking account are looser and don't reject bad name, addresses. I'm just guessing.